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Options Trading Documentary: Trading Wisdom from a 71 year old Trader

Aug 18, 2021
 

What are your next moves for the future? Gotcha.

My next moves for the future. Keep trading, baby. Keep trading.

Yeah. Cause that's, that's just something I love to do and it's not so much the money for me is it is the mastery that you've said it really is the mastery. And, um, the money for me is just a side benefit.

So, and it's also gonna help my wife and daughter and having a more secure future. My daughter lives on her own and she's doing fine by herself, but it's just something that I can, that I can do to pass on as a legacy.

Um, you know, I've, I've had, I've had several businesses and they've, they've gone. Okay. But the stress with running a business is far greater than the stress with, with trade. Then the stress from trading, the trading is nothing compared to, to running a business, particularly in California.

These guys really know what they're doing. Especially after the first week when I had two and a half times my account, it really, it really made them, made the difference in my emotions. And then that, that, that Friday, I just couldn't wait to get back to doing it. I was like, come on, bring it on.

Let's do this. You know? So yeah, even with the downs, it was like, I can't wait to get up in the mornings now. It's like, okay, let's go. You know, cause even here in California, you have to get up at six 30 to do this or six o'clock

Or whatever, because at the start. Yeah. Because The time difference. So, so now I, I can't wait to get up. It's like, gosh, you know, I, I hate to even have a, have a Friday because it's the act. Now I gotta wait the entire weekend to get back to it.

That's amazing that you're saying, If you can't pull the trigger, the vernacular that's used, if you can't pull the trigger, then

Just Take your time. Be patient, take it easy, pull the trigger on a smaller site trade, and then to start gradually getting used to it and gradually getting into it. I was lucky in that I had taken so many losing trades in my life that I could pull the trigger with no problem.

So Once I started pulling the trigger for real in this program, it became a lot easier.

So can you summarize where your account has started and when it has finished percentage wise? Yeah, sure. Um, Started, uh, let's say six figures, five zeros and low six figures. Um, and it is now gone to almost 17. That's

Very, very, very impressive. Very close. Is that right? Let me see seven figures. Yeah, it must be right. Yes. 17 years.

Yeah. We're uh, we're doing very well. I'm very, very pleased. That's nice. I'm happy for you on this side.

And that's in three weeks, ladies and gentlemen, we are here today to have a conversation with Jack who was signed up to trade with 13 market move coach. And he took his medium size account to the large side of the con was in just three weeks. So Jack did this really happened. It really happened. So before you signed up for that, did you expect that something like this can happen? Not well, I was kind

Of thinking that it might, but I didn't expect the scope of what happened.

So if you don't mind me asking, how old Are you? I am 71 years old.

That's impressive. And could you tell me a little bit more about yourself, about your background? Yeah. Uh, I, uh, I was born in Santa Monica and I grew up, uh, mostly in Southern California. I had, uh, about 10 years in Sacramento. And then from there we moved back to Southern California.

And from there we moved to Australia. Wow. Where my father, uh, started a cotton farm. And, uh, then we moved from the Outback of Australia into the Sydney. And from there after two years, we moved back to the states back to Southern California and uh, where I went to high school and finished up high school. And then I went into the military and went into the air force and, uh, actually was shipped overseas to Asia and, uh, mostly in Japan and Taiwan, but I've spent, um, a number of months in, uh, in Vietnam. And, uh, then I came home. I was in the air force and I was, uh, working on, uh, on radar and, uh, navigation equipment.

When I got out of the service, I, uh, I went to, I came up to Ventura actually into, uh, and I got into the ship's navigation business. We were doing oil research, um, off the coast of California and Alaska and in, in the, uh, in the south seas. And, uh, from there, I, I met my wife in Alaska and uh, quit my navigation job.

And we, we moved back down to Southern California. We were, we were licensed by the federal government and the state of California to do that kind of work. Then, uh, a few years ago I sold my portion of the business and decided to retire. Well, retirement was a, was kind of fun, but it unfortunately gave me the opportunity to, uh, to, to, uh, to trade and, and, and my trading, my stock trading and my options trading didn't go so well.

So is that what made you sign up to trade with 13 market Moves? Yes, that was one of the reasons that I signed up was because, uh, I was not doing very well. No. I had blown up several accounts and I was in the process of blowing up another one. I decided I'd,

Uh, you need some help. I needed guidance. I have all the basics down, you know, but I, I didn't know how to quite put them together. And when I saw some of the 13 market moves videos online, I decided that I'd give it a try and see if I could put it all together with them. I had signed up for a number of programs that just didn't pan out. I mean, everything you can possibly think of.

I mean, there was, in the old days, there was a, there was a company that promised you that they were going to, you know, make you a successful trader and they didn't, they didn't make you a successful trader.

All they did was take your money. And there was a lot of those companies out there right now. Um, so I approached this whole thing with a certain amount of skepticism, and I decided that, you know, I, I was going to see how it went. I'd be willing to give it the, you know, they, they, they had a special 13 market moves, had a special of a $1 for a week. Um, and I decided to try, I didn't have anything to lose.

How did you hear about them online? I, I just, I was watching the videos with Leo and some of the various people who were trading with him and I saw, well, you know, these people seem fairly, very real, so I'll, uh, I'll give it a try.

So you are a 71 year old man who now out trades all the 20 and 30 year olds. That's pretty impressive. Yes. Um, well, uh, uh, two through no fault of my own, believe me. Uh, it's it's because of the 13 market moves coaches. My particular coach is Brandon and, uh, he and I, he and I really hit it off and we, uh, we we've been doing some really great things together, so yeah, I guess so I guess I, uh, I, I guess I'm, uh, I don't, wouldn't say lucky if it's it's because it's theirs, it's the skill involved with the coach that I have and, and, uh, and the traits we take and the skills that he has,

Would you walk me more through the last three weeks? Like what exactly happened? Excuse me. Well, It started out, I guess, uh, the dates that I can remember July 16th and, uh, we started making some trades and, uh, I wasn't reluctant because I'd been trading a lot, so I wasn't reluctant to pull the trigger. I was just reluctant, you know, I wanted to see how things go. So I did, um, and, uh, we took a few trades and he didn't go so well.

Oh, from, from week one from week one. Oh gosh, this is not going to go well, what was the scariest moment?

Well, we were down 30% on my account and, uh, you know, to me, uh, you know, anything over $10 is a lot. Oh, really? Yeah. So, you know, we were down 30%, which, you know, was thousands of dollars and I thought, oh, how can we ever recover? And my coach just said, take it easy.

You know, it's going to be five, we'll get into some good trades. And, uh, and so we started going through some of the, some of the formations and things like that of what's going on.

And, um, a couple of days later, actually three days, it was in the third day, I, I was, uh, we were, we took a few trades and, uh, I started out with I'll a medium size amount of money. And the next day after I took that trade, we were up, gosh, on that trade, I think 200%. So my 30% loss turned into a 30% gain and I was, you know, then I said, okay, okay. How did that feel?

It feel great. But, uh, I was thinking, Jesus, this is going to go well. Yeah. So, you know, within a few days, um, my account was list size of Boomi. Yeah. We had, we had taken my entire account was up.

Uh, it was, it was up from where it was, it was up, uh, gosh, 200%. The whole account was up 200%. And, uh, and by the end of it, we were up, I think 250% on the account. So it was really, really nice. Uh, boy, this is great. I want to keep doing this. So anyway, we ended the first week because of the special ended. And so I told them I wanted to continue trading.

And, uh, so, so they said, yeah, it's fine. And, uh, I signed up with, with, uh, with my, my regular coach, and now I'm on more of a permanent where, uh, we're, I'm trading, uh, um, you know, time basically with, with my coach.

And I took, um, I took my original money that I had out and I'm back down into a, to a medium size account again, because I was, you know, moving money around, according to what I wanted to do. And, uh, now my account is, uh, gosh, seven times what it was in in, geez. What about another week and a half or two weeks. So I'm really happy. I'm really

Happy. So I know that week two has been stressful for you and you had some ups and downs. How did that go? Well, It didn't go so well, the Friday of week two, it was, it was, for me, it was a day of all red. And if you've ever seen all red on the chart, it's not good. I can imagine. Yeah. And, uh, it was, I kept, I kept telling my coach, when are we going to see a win?

When are we going to see a win? And it finally ended up, uh, um, that the whole day was down the whole day was down.

So I kind of left dejected and he said, don't worry, we'll come back on Monday. And sure enough, we came roaring back.

We came rolling back on Monday and, uh, we were down even on Friday at Dawn that Friday, we were down more than the first day that I told you about, uh, we were down even more than that. And I was just, I was just, I was just going bonkers because of the, because of the size of the, of the loss.

And he said, no, no, no, it's, it's just, it's nothing to worry about. We'll just, we'll get it all back next week. And sure enough, we came roaring back on that third week, we came, we came roaring back and, uh, I, I was actually up far more than I expected. I'd be. So it was very, it was, it was a lot of fun.

It was a definitely a roller coaster, but, you know, I'm learning more and more that you're going to have these days from time to time that it don't really, you know, work out. Um, no matter what happens, I mean, you can have the perfect pattern and the pattern will turn against you all of a sudden.

So, you know, there are various factors involved in the market going up and down, but sometimes you run into things that are unforeseen. So, but anyway, end result is very good. Very, What would you say was the happiest moment within those three weeks last Wednesday? What happened last Wednesday?

That's When my account was up to 700%, 700%. That's pretty impressive. Over,

Over what I started from, uh, from, uh, the medium size account we were, yeah, we were closing in, on the, on a, on a big milestone and, uh, I hope to reach it this week.

So in three weeks I can take myself from a, from a small time trader to a large time trader that's your plan for the future? My plan for the future is continued to do this while my wife and daughter travel.

I mean, I'm mainly doing this for them so they can have the things that they want in life and so that they can, you know, the, they, they can, you know, feel secure in my retirement. And, uh, um, I've had three battles with cancer so far. Yeah. Um, unfortunately in Vietnam I was exposed to agent orange. So I'm suffering the consequences of that right now.

Um, I've had, yeah, I've had three different types of cancer and I'm currently undergoing treatment for one of them. Um, but unfortunately that treatment will have to keep continue for the rest of my life.

Um, yeah. So I have, you know, various appointments with the, with the VA they're, they're taking real good care of me. Um, but, uh, yeah, so I want to make sure that they're secure before I leave this world and I make sure that everything is, uh, is taken care of for them. Okay.


I want to ask you more about that stressful week, too, that you had, how are you able to sort of like mentally bounce back to being productive and the like, sort of get over it yourself?

It was, it was, it was difficult that night, that Friday night, um, you know, it just get drunk, You know, that sort of thing. That was unexpected. Just kidding, just kidding.

It was, uh, it was hard and because, you know, you, you have these expectations that things are always going to go well, and then reality meets your fantasy and things don't go well.

So, um, it's, it's good to, to be humbled once in a while, because you know, that not everything is going to be easy, it's it, it takes it, you know, it just lets you know, that you need to develop the skills that you, that you're given by a 13 market moves. They're um, they're very knowledgeable company.

You're dealing with people. Who've had a lot of experience trading. You know, it may come off as a bragging sometimes, but it's not really, these guys really know what they're doing and they actually tell you that you, you need to keep it humble. You need to keep down to earth and you need to, you know, you need to realize that there's going to be days.

So I just would refer back to that for sort of a reference point in, in were and where I was at in the, in the whole trading plus Brandon, my coach, he of walked me through it and said, you know what, don't worry. It's going to be fine Prepared for you. Prepare me for it mentally, mentally And for the weekend. And, uh, and then sure enough, Monday morning we took off again.

So, you know, it just, it just shows me that, you know, when you have the downs, you know, you, you have to look forward to the ups and you gotta just gotta let the, the down days go in. The red days are gone and it's all green days from there until the next red day.

Until you, if you will Have an next red day, there will be a next red day, but it's always more green days and bigger green days than the red days.

What do you think? What was the most valuable lesson you've learned working with your coach within the last three weeks?

Uh, Most valuable lesson, be patient, be patient with your trades, be patient with the setups, with the, with the chart patterns and the charts be patient with yourself and, uh, particularly be patient with your coach because he's a he's person too, you know, he's going to have, he's going to have bad days.

He's going to have off days as well. So yeah, that's, that's the nameless patience.

So what do you think who should consider joining that there can market move program and why, If you're someone who wants to master a skill, you're the kind of person who should trade with 13 market moves because your coach is going to help him get that mastery that you need.

Your coach is going to walk you through every step of the way and teach you the V the various skills you need. So, yeah, anyone who wants to master a skill should, should just sign up a 13 market, moves the side benefit of mastering. This skill is a lot of money. So if you want a lot of money and master a skill, anyone who wants to do that, you sign up for 13 markets.

So what are your next moves for the future? My next moves for the future. Keep trading, baby, keep trading. Yeah.

Cause that's, that's just something I love to do. And it's, it's not so much the money for me as it is the mastery. Like I said before, it really is the mastery. And, um, the money for me is just a side benefit.

So, and it's also going to help my wife and daughter have a more secure future. My daughter lives on her own and she's doing fine by herself, but it's just something that I can, that I can do to pass on as a legacy.

Um, you know, I've, I've had, I've had several businesses and they've, they've gone. Okay. But the stress with running a business is far greater than the stress with, with Trey. Then, then the stress from trading, the trading is nothing compared to running a business, particularly in California. Oh man. There's, you know, the thing that I like is I can be my own boss and I can set my own targets.

I can set my own goals and my own and my own skill levels. Um, but like I say, I want to become a master of this particular universe of, of my own trading. And, uh, up to this point, I haven't had the chance. I, well, I've had chances.

Let's not, let's not use that word. Uh, but I haven't, what can I say? I, I guess I really haven't been given the opportunity that I have now the opportunity to, to really perform, like, I think I should. So yeah. Um, anybody who wants to get into this should anybody who wants to watch to master something, should anybody who wants to have us have a side benefit of getting making a lot of money should do this. So, yeah. Nice. Yeah.
Do you have any recommendation or advice for any of our fellow traders who are watching us right now?

Yeah. Uh, Shut up and sign up. How's that?

Okay. Sounds great. Jack, what do you think is the biggest benefit aside from the money portion of working with 13 market moves, uh, comparing to regular study courses?

Well, regular study courses, it's book learning and chart reading, and that sort of thing. You're looking at the computer, you're doing simulated trading. You know, this is not the same. This is real. This is real. And that's the benefit when you're doing it real.

You really know That you're doing it right, or you're doing it wrong. And the good thing about having a coach in this program is that, you know, you're doing it right? Cause he'll tell you when you're doing it wrong. Like some of the things I decided that I'd get out of a trade before I should have, uh, during my coaching session and my coach immediately got on and said, don't do that.

Don't make a move until I tell you to and you'll see why. So he'll he showed me why. So yeah. It's, it's definitely, it's definitely more, um, you're talking about more professionalism, more skill there's there's more skill backing you up. So you'll be able to develop your skills in a professional way. You know, like they say, practice makes practice makes perfect, but it doesn't it's perfect. Practice makes perfect.

I've never heard, that'd be Perfect practice. Cause you can be practicing all you want. And if it's bad, you're practicing bad, but if you're practicing perfect, you're practicing. Perfect. You're practicing perfectly.

Do you have any other words of wisdom that you would like, that you would like to share with our audience right now? Sure. Um, I'm not wearing any pants at the moment, so just kidding. Uh I'm uh, my words of wisdom. Yes. Take your time. Be patient with yourself. Um, enjoy the uptimes because there's going to be downtime and get over the downtimes because there's going to be uptimes. So those are my words of wisdom.

And If you like doing trading By all means, this is, this is the, this is the program for you. This is the way to go.

And before you signed up for the program, what were your struggles as a trader struggles?

Not knowing when to get in and not knowing when to get out, um, thinking that things are gonna change. When I know when I know what I know now that they shouldn't, that they wouldn't change. Oh, holding onto losing trades too long. Um, taking my profits too late or too soon, uh, not knowing when the market was going to move and when it wasn't, um, not knowing any chart patterns, you know, real, real solid chart patterns. I mean, I, I knew about candlestick patterns and that sort of thing, but I didn't know the overall patterns. And that's what this, that's what this teaches you.

Can you walk me through your emotions before you signed up for the program and after you took your first steps?

Yeah, my emotions before I signed up for the program was modeled. I was kind of still skeptical because I'd been through so many different programs and I thought, okay, well, here it goes another one, but it's not going to cost me much to get in. So I decided that I would give it a shot and I did, and I was skeptical, especially the first day when I was down, down, down, I thought, okay, well, um,

Then I, I said, okay, just give it some time. You know, they have some, they have it, they have a one week process, which is what you see for, for a reason. They have a one week process. And it is because it takes a while to get into the swing of what it was. And then after things started going my way, I thought, okay, this is the real deal. This is, these are the real, these guys really know what they're doing.

Especially after the first week when I had two and a half times my account, it really, it really made, made the difference in my emotions. And then that, that, that Friday, I just couldn't wait to get back to doing it again. I was like, come on, bring it on. Let's do this. You know? So yeah, even with the downs, it was like, I can't wait to get up in the mornings now.

And it's like, okay, let's go. You know, cause even here in California, you have to get up at six 30 to do this oh six o'clock or whatever the start. Yeah. Because the time difference. So it's like, now I can't wait to get it. It's like, gosh, you know, I, I hate to even have to have a Friday because it's like, now I got to wait the entire weekend to get back to it. That's Amazing that you're saying that.

Was it easy to work with your instructor? Was it easy to follow his directions?

Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was very easy, you know, do this, do that. Don't do this, don't do that. And I've just followed his direction. If he says, get in now I got in now, if he says, get out now, get out now.

So, um, that's, that's the main thing. And then afterwards after the trading is done or with the trading slows down for the day, like mid day or something, depending on the chart pattern, depending on the market move you're in, uh, you can ask them questions. Why did you do this? Why did you do that? Um, you can do it either via text or they'll call you or whatever.

And, uh, and things, they just work out and it's instantaneous. So there's, there's no delay between the orders given and the orders taken. So it's, you know, you hone your skills also with the trading platforms that you're on.

So, um, thanks to, thanks to be aware of is that if you're shy about trading, you know, if you, if you don't get the, if, if you can't pull the trigger is the vernacular that's used. If you can't pull the trigger, then just take your time.

Be patient, take it easy. We'll pull the trigger on a smaller side trade and then to start gradually getting used to it and gradually getting into it. I was lucky in that I had taken so many losing trades in my life that I could pull the trigger with no problem. So once I started pulling the trigger for real in this program, it became a lot easier.

So can you summarize where your account has started and when it has finished percentage Wise? Yeah, sure.

Started, uh, let's say six figures, five and low six figures. Um, and it is now gone to almost 70. That's very, Very impressive. Very close seven figures. Is that right? Let me see. Seven figures. Yes.

We're uh, we're doing very well, very, very pleased. And that's in three weeks. What are your hopes for the future? I'm fortunate in that I really don't want anything at all. All I want is the, is to deal with the master. One thing. That's true. That's my goal. It's mastered. So anyway, yeah. So if it's not the money that motivates me so much as the mastery, Jack, would you like to finish this with some final stuff?

Sure. Uh, if you're ready to trade and you want to trade correctly, sign up with 13 market moves today. Thank

You, Jack. Nice having this conversation and if you are ready to trade, sign up with 13 market moves.com and start trading today. Shut up and sign up.

Keep trading, baby, keep trading.

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